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what's up everybody happy thursday i

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hope you're all

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pretty

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great i got my awesome

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uh well it's awesome to me my horse

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with cacti

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so that usually means that we're going

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to be doing some pretty great stuff

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i'm seeing that oak ridge stuff in here

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um that's pretty dope if i have time

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i'll show you those stocks those are

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pretty good too

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um yeah

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you already know this i'm sure but there

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were a bunch of sightings over oak ridge

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so today we're going to cover a couple

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kind of give you where i'm at with that

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that andy released yesterday

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just briefly

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um touch on the einstein thing and where

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and i'm not messing around with that

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it's it's definitely it's definitely

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definitely proof

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um but first just wanted to say hello to

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everybody um the contributors everybody

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that's in this chat i really do

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appreciate it

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spaghetti

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i can't put you on the screen if you're

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gonna have that picture up

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that is just giving me nightmares

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look at that picture

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oh my god

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um

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yeah abbas uh megan t what's up how are

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my flying saucers

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totally appreciate you guys hanging out

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today derek

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mr robert crawford

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uh existential minds let's do it we

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about to that's for sure rusty pack

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um andres hello how are you

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who else we got who else we got avril

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what's up

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witness citizen thanks for coming

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uh case for infinity

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nice to see you thanks for being here

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um and

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the one and only alien girl

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how are you i always liked it when you

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joined appreciate you being here

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john elderwolf appreciate you thanks for

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being here and spaghetti says that is

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his good side well we know that's not

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the case we've had him on the show

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so that's just it's not true it's

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but for some reason it's like one of

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those weird things i can't stop staring

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probably not good for me

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to or not but i don't know what else

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starting to be a couple other people in

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this field to be honest with you

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appreciate you being here as always

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yeah you got a brother of course man you

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you're so consistent you know if i was

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paying you to be here i would say you

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are so consistent you're gonna move up

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the ladder bro because you are here

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five gigs worth that's gonna be a lot of

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so i'm not innocent here

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did i just told you i wore my emotions

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to be uploaded correctly

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now there wasn't one analysis given i

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forget his name and you know for the

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sake of the video that was positive he

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was a fleer tech i believe

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came out out of california but that

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bunch more flying around no but what i'm

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shouldn't be doing that and that's my

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apologize to andy for

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being off the cuff

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extremely intense

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situation that provided a lot of

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but people like that andy you also need

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to know that there are smart people

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carrying people around you that can help

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you in those situations do things

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properly

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because it's not like you've been doing

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it your whole life

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so with that being said don't beat

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yourself up i'm sorry if i beat you up

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i'm sorry if other people did

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hopefully the scu you know looks at this

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and clarifies what we're looking at

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hopefully when it goes on black fault

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the picture is

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a lot clearer and we can see the little

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different details and things on it

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and so it kind of becomes more clear

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we all can learn from a situation like

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because i know i'm not perfect and i may

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do that again and i apologize in advance

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but i'm gonna be tried try to be

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cognizant of it and sit back and just

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you know i don't want to tell act like

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i'm telling people what to do because i

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don't i'm just giving my advice in my

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opinion and you don't have to listen to

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the people you surround yourself with

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because they may be able to help

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do things a little more appropriately

294
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you know

295
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that's all i got to say

296
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there andy i still love you man and i'm

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sorry for you know

298
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not being there

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um

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but i'm wishing you the best and i i

301
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hope this really goes well

302
00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:19,839
because you know we all need

303
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we all need something and we really

304
00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,560
haven't got much since the navy videos

305
00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:26,880
and that was four years ago

306
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it was four years ago and we've gotten

307
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and not

308
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in particular to him

309
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but just everybody so much talk big

310
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:40,480
things big stuff four years ago

311
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and what do we really have

312
00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:46,240
do we really have we have the government

313
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admitting that their uaps exist okay

314
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:52,800
they have a mandate put in place okay

315
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but what are we going to see

316
00:14:59,189 --> 00:14:57,519
we're the ones that pushed this forward

317
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and made this happen

318
00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:01,040
and yet we're not going to see any of

319
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you can't tell me there's not a video

320
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that doesn't

321
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compromise any sensitive technology

322
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that you can't share

323
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i just don't believe that

324
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and because you won't we're stuck in

325
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these little situations scraping for

326
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and so i think most of all when we are

327
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in these situations

328
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that's the important thing to remember

329
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by the people that have lied about this

330
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since the 40s

331
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and that's not fair that's not fair to

332
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experiencers

333
00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:01,519
that's not fair to the

334
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air force pilots

335
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and not just flavor in dietrich

336
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i mean they're in the spotlight

337
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:11,600
but there are

338
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probably i would say hundreds

339
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,749
and that's a fair assessment

340
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it's a fair guess

341
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:27,600
and you can't judge that guess if you

342
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:29,680
have not looked at the thousands and

343
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:43,030
because i have and it is a fair guess

344
00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,670
so

345
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that being said let's move on to the

346
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einstein thing

347
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,320
[Music]

348
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:54,560
um spaghetti wouldn't let that go

349
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,759
yesterday

350
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and the day before

351
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and

352
00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:00,160
you know this is

353
00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:03,120
kind of one of those situations

354
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:05,919
where if you grab onto it too much and

355
00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:08,319
get too excited for it then to be

356
00:17:13,669 --> 00:17:11,600
debunked here we are again

357
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:13,679
deflate it

358
00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:15,919
and we have to find some sort of middle

359
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,360
ground here to where we sit and wait for

360
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,280
things to become a little more fleshed

361
00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:23,360
out otherwise we're just gonna be

362
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,000
constantly taken advantage of by either

363
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,400
things that don't look so great on the

364
00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:33,039
outside at first or

365
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,510
if you don't think there's legit people

366
00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,960
putting

367
00:17:45,990 --> 00:17:43,120
deliberate disinformation into this

368
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:46,000
community you're fooling yourself

369
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:47,520
if there are secrets that are hidden

370
00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:48,640
which

371
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they'll do anything to continue to hide

372
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those even if it means a distraction

373
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a distraction from where you currently

374
00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:02,080
are concentrating

375
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:10,390
and i don't know maybe it is true the

376
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:13,600
einstein thing i don't know

377
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,000
but nobody none of us know

378
00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:17,679
and we can't go by

379
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i mean she was 17 years old in 1947

380
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,919
17. and the amount of secrets you put

381
00:18:34,150 --> 00:18:31,840
into area 51 do you really think they're

382
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:34,160
going to take a 17 year old no matter

383
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,200
how smart she was

384
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,880
to go to roswell and look at this stuff

385
00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:40,320
and trust her that

386
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:47,669
it just doesn't make any sense

387
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,440
and yes in this field of ufos what does

388
00:18:58,710 --> 00:18:56,390
but it you know we have to find a middle

389
00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:58,720
ground there

390
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:01,360
so in these situations

391
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prove it

392
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:06,400
it's just

393
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:10,480
maybe possibly sorta kinda

394
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:13,600
a 17 year old went to help einstein look

395
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i mean einstein like spaghetti you

396
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,720
actually hit it

397
00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:25,520
yesterday the

398
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headline alone

399
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:29,520
right einstein roswell

400
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that is an attention grabber who is not

401
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,039
going to look at that read it and spend

402
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,960
considerable amount of time thinking

403
00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:39,440
about it especially in this community

404
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,669
i would bet the farm on it

405
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:54,070
now i could be wrong and if i am i will

406
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:59,430
so

407
00:20:01,510 --> 00:20:00,480
i see

408
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:01,520
we just

409
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:02,720
move on

410
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,039
from here

411
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,280
yeah i mean that's a good point jason

412
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,840
huge clickbait but it's still fun

413
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:11,360
and you know

414
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:12,880
there's different ways to look at this

415
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:16,559
stuff some people look at this stuff and

416
00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,600
you know

417
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,520
they're i don't want to say in it for

418
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:21,760
entertainment but for the fun part of it

419
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,440
and things to

420
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:25,600
read that are interesting that may not

421
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:28,640
be true or maybe true that's fine you

422
00:20:32,470 --> 00:20:31,280
know that's cool

423
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:32,480
i'm

424
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:34,240
i mean and this is fun to me but it's

425
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,600
more than that it's about human

426
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,360
relationships to me and it's about

427
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:39,440
finding some truth

428
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,640
in regards to what i went through

429
00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:44,159
and i'll leave out my dream stuff and

430
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:45,919
the consciousness stuff just leave it at

431
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,230
10 feet away 30 feet away

432
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:56,470
what was it

433
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,710
you know and will i find that going

434
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,280
through these documents maybe not

435
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:07,200
maybe not

436
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:08,799
but at least

437
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,200
i can show

438
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:13,840
that we deserve more answers

439
00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:18,080
from someone that can undoubtedly

440
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,230
so

441
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:29,990
the lack of an initial interest

442
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:32,240
spaghetti is what i just discussed

443
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:33,440
is a bunch of

444
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you know hoopla and big storylines that

445
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,840
don't go anywhere so how many times are

446
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,600
you going to be interested in that and

447
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:41,919
invest your time in that and then just

448
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:45,039
be let down again i understand a lot of

449
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:46,880
people have been doing that for a lot

450
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,000
longer than me

451
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:52,000
but it doesn't take me long to just look

452
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,390
maybe

453
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:00,400
but i looked at it right away and

454
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,149
complete [\h__\h]

455
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,480
and then the farther i looked into it

456
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she's 17.

457
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:13,039
the girl was 17 years old

458
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and she just

459
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,159
happened to not

460
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,760
write this stuff down on her nose she

461
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:20,159
forgot she forgot to write about alien

462
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:23,679
bodies and spacecraft on her notes

463
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,710
i don't know

464
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:33,120
and i think it just takes our vision and

465
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:35,039
our concentration and it puts it

466
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,039
somewhere

467
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:39,039
and wastes

468
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:46,230
and again stuff's up to you this is just

469
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,880
my opinion and i won't

470
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:51,200
you know

471
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:52,840
you

472
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,720
because i'm here for one thing doesn't

473
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,559
mean you have to be

474
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,789
that's for sure all right so

475
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:13,430
now's the time where we show proof

476
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,270
it's a lot of wise people out there that

477
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,919
just you know debunk videos and

478
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,919
and think this isn't real because you

479
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:22,240
know the navy video thing doesn't do it

480
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:23,600
for them or

481
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:26,080
this last video looks like a balloon to

482
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,360
them or

483
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:29,280
you know whatever but i would honestly

484
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,750
that's not the point spaghetti and this

485
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,360
is the last time i'm going to talk about

486
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,600
this because i don't even really

487
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:41,520
appreciate the subject in here because i

488
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,120
do think it is disinformation

489
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:47,200
you could have started college at 17 but

490
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:48,880
waited that's not the point the point is

491
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,510
thing that happened that we still can't

492
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,320
even find out about 80 years later

493
00:24:02,950 --> 00:23:59,919
they're not going to put her in this

494
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:09,830
it's just ridiculous

495
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,149
so

496
00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:16,549
the proof

497
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,590
let's

498
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:20,000
show you what real proof is

499
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:21,279
and not

500
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,919
this is actual proof

501
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:31,600
of

502
00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:37,350
sham

503
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,840
all right so these are new actual

504
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,600
documents as opposed to what i shared

505
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,360
before the 70 and

506
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,159
already 70 well documented encounters by

507
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:48,320
an fbi person

508
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:49,520
a

509
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,950
so here we go

510
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,390
mr blank

511
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,000
[Music]

512
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,559
webster girls mrs mr blank he's very

513
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,799
popular person uh webster groves

514
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,200
missouri reported citing two objects in

515
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,080
the sky at approximately 1700 hours 29th

516
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,880
of may 1952

517
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:22,799
off the coast of florida keys well

518
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:25,200
aboard the uss

519
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,880
i'm not even going to try cva 34.

520
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,360
um that we're standing beside the ship's

521
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,080
telescope on the starboard side of the

522
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,400
navigation deck and observed two objects

523
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:38,480
through the telescope upon being

524
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:40,840
informed by the radar officer name

525
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,840
unknown that there were two saucers in

526
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,679
the sky

527
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:47,279
on the 10th

528
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:53,430
his field representative engineer for

529
00:26:02,630 --> 00:25:57,039
vickers electric division

530
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:04,390
why do they make stuff like i'm just

531
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:11,830
uh cv34 commanded by captain j.o

532
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:14,559
lambrick u.s navy and route from norfolk

533
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:17,600
virginia to guantanamo

534
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:21,990
um now when we look at this

535
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:25,039
may 29 1952 remember what happened

536
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:26,960
shortly thereafter

537
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:31,909
the dc

538
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:44,710
all right spaghetti i told you

539
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,669
what else we got here

540
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,600
two saucers in the sky advised that he

541
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,360
was standing beside the ship's telescope

542
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,960
located on the starboard side of the

543
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,720
navigation deck and immediately looked

544
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:56,159
at the objects in the sky through the

545
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,440
telescope

546
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,360
stated that there were two objects in

547
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,440
the sky at an estimated altitude of 10

548
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:04,240
to 15 000 feet flying in a front

549
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:06,320
formation each object was leaving a

550
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,240
okay so

551
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:17,029
[Music]

552
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:30,710
what else we got here there was no

553
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,720
apparent color if you were celeret there

554
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,480
were two objects each leaving a white

555
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,080
vapor trail no apparent propulsion

556
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:38,559
system could be observed familiar the

557
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,120
speed was estimated above the sonic

558
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:43,919
range as the objects were in view only

559
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,919
15 to 20 seconds when they disappeared

560
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,039
from sight

561
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,520
there is no sound audible due to

562
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:51,200
aircraft and operation on the flight

563
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,960
deck

564
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,720
the objects were viewed by means of

565
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,279
telescope and the radar officer viewed

566
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:00,399
the objects on the radar scope

567
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,269
um the location of the aircraft carrier

568
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:09,520
at the time of the sighting was

569
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,919
approximately off the florida keys as

570
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:13,279
the carrier passed

571
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:16,159
santo domingo island sometime between

572
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:20,320
2100 2100 hours and 2200 hours on the

573
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:26,149
the objects course paralleled that of

574
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,440
the carrier

575
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:29,120
the weather conditions were described as

576
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,310
um s

577
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,000
person stated that he had flown a great

578
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,840
deal and considered his estimate of the

579
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:41,840
altitude carefully he gave the

580
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,799
appearance of a calm person not readily

581
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,120
excited and considered his answers very

582
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,080
carefully before answering any questions

583
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,559
he had advised he did not report the

584
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,880
incident to the security officer nor to

585
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,200
the intelligence officer upon arrival at

586
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:58,559
the port

587
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:01,279
he could not state as to what action the

588
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,039
radar officer who first cited the

589
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:05,440
objects took in reporting the incident

590
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,080
stated that it was at the suggestion of

591
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,559
his employer vickers incorporated that

592
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,559
the matter be reported to the united

593
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:14,559
states air force that he contacted the

594
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:29,750
and there we go

595
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,240
report of observation of ufo by police

596
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:33,840
sergeant

597
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:42,070
we have some a ufo round size of a tire

598
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,200
on a heavy earth moving vehicle

599
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:47,600
approximately nine feet diameter white

600
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,600
three objects

601
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:51,520
um

602
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:53,679
three ship element i'm not sure what

603
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,840
that word says objects flew over the

604
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:56,799
city

605
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:01,679
and only bottoms were observed round and

606
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,720
appeared flat as saucer

607
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,720
bright light appeared over vehicle area

608
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:08,799
of lambert field missouri lasting about

609
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,310
three objects were sighted directly

610
00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,440
overhead five to ten thousand feet

611
00:30:21,389 --> 00:30:19,440
traveling northeast visible for about

612
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:21,399
six seconds

613
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:22,960
instantaneously

614
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,039
below overcast six sentence

615
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:27,440
ground visual a check with operations

616
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,630
detective six radar bomb squad

617
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,360
reported negative sighting

618
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:41,279
check of the logs by mr clark tucker

619
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:44,240
radar watch supervisor faa lambert field

620
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:45,520
negative

621
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:51,430
second observer was parked in a car on

622
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:01,430
uh contacted

623
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,200
car radio asked him if he noticed

624
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,120
anything unusual answer do you mean the

625
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:07,600
sky lighting up

626
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,070
notice

627
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:18,230
afr 200 dash

628
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:25,750
jeff gill curious as sean said where how

629
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,720
he got all these documents i have

630
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:30,559
and the funny part is i've had him

631
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:34,320
available for quite some time

632
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:36,720
maybe in upwards of

633
00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,679
months where anyone could have got all

634
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,279
of the documents

635
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:42,960
looked at them did whatever they wanted

636
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,320
even offered them to mr greenwald

637
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,880
didn't care

638
00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:50,320
a lot of people didn't

639
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,159
so

640
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:54,399
what i'm doing now is putting together

641
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:55,279
the

642
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:56,880
um

643
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:02,480
you know i guess the most resonant for

644
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:04,640
people which seem to be military

645
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,190
former navy air force pilot had

646
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:13,279
experience in reporting ufos during

647
00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:16,399
military service so you tell me how many

648
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:17,360
more

649
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,470
for us to get some sort of

650
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,720
answer from somebody

651
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,720
because is it just me i don't think

652
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,240
anyone's

653
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:34,399
you know had accountability to all this

654
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:50,789
three objects going northeast

655
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,789
uh then they say here but it is believed

656
00:33:04,549 --> 00:32:54,799
that it might be some form of unusual

657
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:06,630
i mean i guess i can't say that it isn't

658
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:09,440
but there's so many of these

659
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:15,909
what's up uh bye joe's

660
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,399
peace up

661
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:20,159
um all right here we go

662
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:24,320
on april 1st 1960 captain arnold

663
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:27,840
uh burbania's illinois cult captain

664
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:31,120
shoot 21 4500 hours april 1st 1960 and

665
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,880
reported the sighting of unidentified

666
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:34,960
flying object

667
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:37,200
he described as a ball blue in color

668
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,240
that's first i haven't seen that much

669
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,640
with a long trail coming from it maybe

670
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:45,120
it was a plane he cited the object about

671
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,039
four miles north of kaneki illinois

672
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:50,960
and took a picture of it captain shoot

673
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:53,360
requested to send the pictures to chernu

674
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:00,230
who after being informed of action

675
00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,950
mr robert's favorite afr afr200-2

676
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,800
stated that in the absence of an

677
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:10,320
assigned intelligence officer he would

678
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,560
take the information and initiate action

679
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,280
required by that regulation

680
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,040
the above furnace for your information

681
00:34:20,470 --> 00:34:19,200
although it was not received directly

682
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:20,480
from the person

683
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,589
i find the blocking

684
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,599
uncalled for and rude

685
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,359
see you in all the other chats where

686
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,879
chatting is okay

687
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:48,399
i don't understand what you're what

688
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,150
investigation requested by cg lowry air

689
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:02,079
force base unidentified fast-moving

690
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:03,520
flame or light were reported to have

691
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,400
been observed by lieutenant webb

692
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:08,880
january 18 50 while flying in vicinity

693
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:10,800
of denver

694
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:15,349
lowry air force base training and

695
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:21,349
had been notified of experimental

696
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:29,589
had not been notified of experimental

697
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,870
heading towards holloman air force base

698
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:38,560
so they actually kind of tried to map it

699
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,870
um joint investigation

700
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,880
interviewed and stated substantially as

701
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,040
follows webb and lieutenant drysdale

702
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,520
were flying a t6 when they reached a

703
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,000
point about 15 miles southeast of denver

704
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,480
he observed an unusual spectacle he saw

705
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,400
a long streak of flame cylinder and

706
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:10,400
shape rounded at the front and tapered

707
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:12,960
towards the rear

708
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:15,040
it was of a white reddish color with

709
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,470
webb stated that it moved on an

710
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,040
estimated heading of 200 degrees

711
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,200
at a high rate of speed without apparent

712
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,320
change in altitude of course

713
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,320
the flame remained in sight for about

714
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,000
three seconds and faded out the altitude

715
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,160
of the flame was estimated about 5000

716
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,400
feet higher than the observer webb was

717
00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:38,240
unable to see any running light

718
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:41,680
silhouette or other features

719
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:43,359
and then we also have first lieutenant

720
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:58,390
and then we have captain hf daniel

721
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:11,109
got a lot of those bad boys

722
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:13,990
all right captain john kurtz

723
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:16,320
major lindell avery

724
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:20,560
798 3416 student officer squadron we're

725
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,430
state in an interview that he observed

726
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,359
would appear to be a meteor but larger

727
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:30,640
and slower

728
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,599
maintaining level flight

729
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,520
he described it as a flame light blue to

730
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,280
white in color similar to that of an

731
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:40,079
oxygen torch

732
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,829
uh the po then we have captain

733
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:51,119
john can't read that first lieutenant

734
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:01,750
two positions and headings of the four

735
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:04,880
aforementioned aircraft were plotted

736
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,760
an overlay of sentinel aeronautical

737
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,359
charts

738
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,200
oh yeah i have that they're just kind of

739
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,790
uh check with the denver bomb plot

740
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,280
radar bomb

741
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,040
scoring squadron disclosed that their

742
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,480
radar was not operating

743
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:26,800
check with base operations 3415

744
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:33,670
failed to reveal any record of notice of

745
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,109
oh this is a good one

746
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:49,440
you'll have to remind me of that

747
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,109
trinidad is this for yeah

748
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:59,680
yeah robert so i'm definitely a very

749
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:01,839
knowledgeable person with this stuff and

750
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:04,480
i do lean on that knowledge

751
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:15,349
okay so yeah then he gives the pictures

752
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:16,640
and these are kind of chopped up

753
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:19,359
obviously so they can fax them in

754
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:26,630
and it really doesn't do much for me oh

755
00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:30,079
look at those planes beautiful planes

756
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:31,520
as an artist

757
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:37,829
background so akron ohio's up there

758
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:49,910
here we go

759
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,480
commander lowry air force base made

760
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,400
available to this office for information

761
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:00,310
uh unidentified object glowing bright

762
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,000
green cited by ual 600 flying eastbound

763
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:06,640
at 19 000 feet

764
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:09,760
uh sea level over a point 12 miles east

765
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,480
of

766
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,240
cherokee wyoming

767
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:14,800
i wonder if lou was there probably not

768
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,710
object first appeared 12 to 15 degrees

769
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,200
true from observable observation point

770
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,599
and disappeared behind cloud

771
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,800
bank

772
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,800
slanting

773
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:32,319
downward 30 degrees to the left of

774
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,550
[Music]

775
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:39,040
captain sperry

776
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:42,720
confirmed by co-pilot confirmed by pilot

777
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,960
uh 35 miles west of sinclair wyoming at

778
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:48,800
13 000 feet

779
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:06,950
it's like i'm reading from a script

780
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:10,069
um lieutenant 14th district osi at u.s

781
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,760
air force base lowry air force base

782
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,720
colorado filed 24-0 subject unidentified

783
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:16,960
flying object reported by united

784
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:28,790
march 30th 1954

785
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,470
um

786
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,560
july 9th 1954

787
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,040
office received a communication from

788
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,240
captain george german

789
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:40,880
operations officer lowry air force base

790
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,880
advising that between those hours he

791
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,440
observed six or seven objects flying at

792
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,440
a very high altitude

793
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,760
and rate of speed and that he did not

794
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:51,440
believe the objects were conventional

795
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:54,000
type aircraft

796
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:57,359
there was a interview conducted

797
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,319
on july 9th a b-36 aircraft was in the

798
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:03,520
vicinity of lowry air force base

799
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:06,160
flying in about 30 000

800
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:08,800
and was working radar and this is great

801
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,040
radio and radio jamming

802
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:13,119
and a radio jamming problem

803
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:14,079
so

804
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:19,359
unusual formations of objects on the

805
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:22,319
radar however the jamming devices being

806
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:35,829
so

807
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,710
oh sure yeah um well

808
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,400
there's reasons for it the first time i

809
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,480
didn't appreciate you calling girls like

810
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,880
hot in my chat room i'd like to keep it

811
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,680
respectful and i don't think that was

812
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
and then today i'm given actual proof

813
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,079
and information and we get distractions

814
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:54,079
of something we don't have proof of

815
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,800
so i just take that serious if this

816
00:43:05,109 --> 00:42:58,400
isn't for you if you don't like how i

817
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,470
um

818
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:10,470
edward rush and mcnabb conducted

819
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:13,920
interviews personnel of 3933 radar bomb

820
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,440
squadron who advised that about 1300

821
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:19,599
hours on july 9th

822
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:23,430
so

823
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,440
still ask the radar if they got anything

824
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,720
but that's interesting you know

825
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,079
something like this you could think of

826
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,000
maybe they threw some things up there to

827
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:34,160
see if you know the radar could even

828
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,200
pick it up

829
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:37,119
because they were trying to jam things

830
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,309
um

831
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:44,079
observed six or seven objects overhead

832
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:46,400
which appeared to be approximately one

833
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,390
this is interesting

834
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,200
so at the bottom here

835
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,880
okay well first to be

836
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:09,760
36 disappeared behind some clouds and

837
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,280
attempting to resight the b-36

838
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:15,119
observe four or five shining specks at

839
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:16,880
what they believe to be fifty thousand

840
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,109
both advised that the both advised that

841
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:25,760
the objects appeared to be triangular in

842
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,880
shape

843
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,720
and that they appear to be capable of

844
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,200
hovering in one spot for some period of

845
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,040
time and then moving off

846
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:36,000
at a normal rate of speed in a easternly

847
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:46,870
[Music]

848
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,069
okay so

849
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,319
according to captain german

850
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,160
tremaine the objects were observed by

851
00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:54,960
himself and first lieutenant donald

852
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:03,589
um they've been flight dispatchers for

853
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:07,760
united airlines for some period of time

854
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,670
information

855
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:19,829
operation checkpoint was being held in

856
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,720
this vicinity and that f-86 type

857
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,280
aircraft was repelling the attack at

858
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:28,480
exceptionally high altitude

859
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:38,390
that's crazy

860
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,000
what does that mean repelling what

861
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,319
attack

862
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:47,119
gonna have to look into

863
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:56,069
oh what do you make of this now robert

864
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:05,670
september 7th 1954

865
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:07,670
got a letter from denver regional office

866
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:17,910
i received the report from blank aurora

867
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,280
colorado

868
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,839
august 22nd 1954 that he'd seen flag

869
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:24,000
saucers on the night of the 21st of

870
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:25,119
august

871
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,560
from the lakeshore drive-in

872
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:30,960
report made to the federal civil defense

873
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:34,000
administration reflected

874
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:38,000
saw one flying saucer traveling north

875
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,440
what appeared to be the vicinity of

876
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,079
stapleton airfield advised that he saw a

877
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,800
flight containing from 10 to 12 flying

878
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,319
saucers

879
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,480
traveling west over north denver towards

880
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:50,160
stapleton airfield at a high rate of

881
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,349
um

882
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:01,750
special agent interviewed at his

883
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:08,069
i usually don't pick civilian cases so i

884
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,190
oh here we go he advised the agent of

885
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,760
this office that he had approximately 3

886
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,040
000

887
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,000
flying hours of flying time i'm guessing

888
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:22,400
in world war ii and could furnish no

889
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,160
additional information in regard to the

890
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:26,319
unidentified object other than what you

891
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,750
fluorescent objects

892
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:36,079
individual objects are one

893
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:37,359
mass

894
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:44,150
objector objects were almost directly

895
00:47:50,640 --> 00:48:01,910
left no trail

896
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:08,150
200-2

897
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:08,950
um

898
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:10,559
technical training squadron reported

899
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:13,920
this office that he observed ufos while

900
00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:18,950
at east driving theater what's with the

901
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,680
driven theaters

902
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:24,160
uh is obtained from heroin airmen not

903
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,750
interesting

904
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:31,680
size compared to a p so what is that

905
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:32,880
small

906
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,190
okay well formation ranging from a

907
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:40,640
straight line to a v

908
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,510
interesting

909
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,910
well

910
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:09,510
i don't know what do you guys think is

911
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:17,270
i'm not sure maybe a bunch of people are

912
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:32,309
i'm not sure what do you think

913
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,270
yeah so my picture thing is like frozen

914
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,599
and not working now so

915
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:39,520
that's okay but

916
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,119
i'll finish getting up all these other

917
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,119
ones and put them on the website so you

918
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,280
can look at the entire documents for

919
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:48,880
yourself

920
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,630
it's it's you know there's a lot of

921
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:58,000
different things happening different

922
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:01,440
names different places different objects

923
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,440
different

924
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,599
qualities or

925
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,760
physical attributes

926
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,760
but one thing's for sure in all this is

927
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:12,720
they're all respectable

928
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:15,119
witnesses

929
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:16,960
serving our country

930
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,829
they don't know what the things are they

931
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:27,359
saw apparently to the documents they

932
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:31,589
right

933
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,470
that it's not real it's not a thing and

934
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:41,839
you're ridiculed and you're made fun of

935
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:43,119
to the point of where you don't say

936
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,400
anything

937
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:46,000
and then the press starts making fun of

938
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:48,160
it and putting x-files things behind it

939
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,829
you

940
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:55,119
know and there's something to think

941
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,520
about it like how many people can like

942
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:01,440
trained observers in these cases we're

943
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,920
upwards of if once i put these up there

944
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:05,599
and the other ones i have will be up

945
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:12,150
you know

946
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:19,430
and that's just those ones like in these

947
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,200
osi districts that i put up there

948
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:24,240
there's also civilian cases and there's

949
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:33,990
there's all sorts of different stuff

950
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,349
um

951
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:37,359
so why not just like

952
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:39,280
i just don't get why they just don't say

953
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,549
just don't understand that

954
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:48,079
if you don't know just tell us you don't

955
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:49,200
know

956
00:52:02,870 --> 00:51:56,950
if you're playing games on us with

957
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:05,990
you know like any way you look at it

958
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,030
and at this point from something in the

959
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:13,760
50s you can surely

960
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,839
give us some answers or be more

961
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:18,480
transparent

962
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:26,630
so that's my deal

963
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:28,390
i had a little serious tone today i

964
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:36,069
but like i said um

965
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,520
you know there's real proof out here

966
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:41,520
but we all have to you know read and

967
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:44,960
then ask for answers together based on

968
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:52,069
and and maybe we'll get somewhere

969
00:53:03,030 --> 00:52:59,589
and you know if spaghetti is out there

970
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,040
i love spaghetti i do like spaghetti

971
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:05,680
uh but i'm just being honest with

972
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,589
i'm trying to like it's really important

973
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,800
to me

974
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:14,079
obviously for you guys have been

975
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:15,040
watching

976
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,559
and it's in my heart

977
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:19,040
um to do this and show these documents

978
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,559
show actual proof of lies

979
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,079
you know

980
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:25,920
and it's not fair when i'm doing that

981
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,040
and it's constantly being distracted

982
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,359
by something

983
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:33,920
that we can't prove

984
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,280
and that really is

985
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:39,040
to me

986
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:42,480
kind of a distraction

987
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:44,079
you know if we have proof i'll talk

988
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:45,359
about it for

989
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:46,960
weeks or if there's a way to get the

990
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,319
proof i'll try to do it

991
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,790
but at some point you have to decide

992
00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:56,480
what you put your energy on because you

993
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,400
only have so much i only have so much

994
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,160
and this is where it goes and i don't

995
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:02,240
want it you know it's just important to

996
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:03,599
me so

997
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:08,710
that's how it is and then the other day

998
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,599
i don't take any sexist crap or you know

999
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,240
talking about people's looks in kind of

1000
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,760
a rude manner

1001
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:17,359
you know you may not think it was and

1002
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,960
the person may not think it was but i

1003
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,880
think it was and it's

1004
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,040
just how i roll here

1005
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:24,800
and no offense to anybody who doesn't

1006
00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:34,470
um yeah thanks man i appreciate it

1007
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,400
i want i just wanted to do this show i

1008
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,000
did want to come out and say something

1009
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,960
about um the video

1010
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,240
yesterday

1011
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,160
and you know hold myself accountable

1012
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,160
that maybe i jumped the gun too much

1013
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:48,720
that doesn't mean i change my mind on if

1014
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:49,839
i think it's

1015
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:53,119
something impressive or not but you know

1016
00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,470
and then i really just wanted to show

1017
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:02,079
you know proof because i almost felt

1018
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:04,079
like the air sucked out of the room on

1019
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:11,589
i guess i consider myself an empath if

1020
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:14,400
there you know is

1021
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:15,920
you know

1022
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,280
i guess i am

1023
00:55:21,750 --> 00:55:19,599
and so i'm really susceptible to

1024
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:21,760
emotional rollercoasters

1025
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,880
and sucking up that energy

1026
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:27,359
and it's hard for me to keep that at

1027
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,880
base sometimes especially when it's so

1028
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,720
intense and it's attached to something

1029
00:55:36,630 --> 00:55:33,200
so important to me

1030
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,470
i do my best

1031
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,920
thanks lara

1032
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,440
appreciate you

1033
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:43,440
andres you sean they don't want to look

1034
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:46,319
incompetent it's that simple yeah

1035
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,450
i get you well they are now

1036
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:50,640
[Laughter]

1037
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,440
you know

1038
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,440
[Music]

1039
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,670
so

1040
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:00,630
we

1041
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,359
know what that if at least one did crash

1042
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:05,119
then at least some are physical yeah

1043
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,160
that's true that's a good point

1044
00:56:13,589 --> 00:56:10,480
it's a good point

1045
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,599
it passed two yeah i totally get it

1046
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:16,000
yeah and it just it you know laura to be

1047
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,760
honest it

1048
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,119
you know it was hard living most of my

1049
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,680
life not really really even realizing

1050
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,599
that going through all this stuff and

1051
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:24,799
being like why

1052
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:28,839
you know um but like emotion just

1053
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,839
um has a way of especially when it's

1054
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:33,200
just that intense it can be really

1055
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:35,839
difficult for me so i try my best

1056
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:37,119
and i've gotten better at it through the

1057
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:38,240
years

1058
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:39,520
but

1059
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,839
you know it has its pros and cons

1060
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,040
um

1061
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:44,880
some of the pros are

1062
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,119
i can listen and

1063
00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:49,680
um really really be present with someone

1064
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,799
and feel

1065
00:56:54,950 --> 00:56:52,559
uh what they're feeling and share that

1066
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,960
with them when they need it

1067
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:55,839
um

1068
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,309
i like ross sees idea of a dorky officer

1069
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:05,520
out there who doesn't want to admit that

1070
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:06,559
yeah

1071
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:09,520
um well you know

1072
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,109
um

1073
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,280
yeah he went over there totally he told

1074
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:19,280
well no one's over there well maybe

1075
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:20,720
maybe he figured it out maybe he went

1076
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,910
yeah that's tony that's a good point and

1077
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:27,520
that's a good point

1078
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:28,880
um

1079
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,280
video perhaps

1080
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:36,400
uh maybe just um

1081
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,480
maybe just wait on it best because i

1082
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:40,640
think it's going up on black volt

1083
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:43,839
and you know i'm assuming it'll be

1084
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,160
uh better quality because the remaining

1085
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:48,000
like five gigs of the file or whatever

1086
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,680
will be in there

1087
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:53,040
which i would hope um goes to the

1088
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,670
um

1089
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:58,960
i don't know because as it says right

1090
00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:00,480
now you can't really make heads or tails

1091
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:01,359
of it

1092
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,880
it i mean sure it looks weird

1093
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,720
has no heat signature i think that's

1094
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,119
that's the the big one

1095
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:10,799
so

1096
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,680
answer for that maybe not

1097
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:18,400
but regardless um

1098
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:23,200
you know the guy tried his best in

1099
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:33,030
yeah possibly laura i'll think about it

1100
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,960
i'll definitely think about that i

1101
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,520
really appreciate you offering that too

1102
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,630
um you can always start by sending me

1103
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:44,000
email if you want

1104
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:45,359
s rush

1105
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:57,589
yeah totally good point dude

1106
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,119
aren't you a show guy don't you like

1107
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:00,960
coming on shows benji

1108
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:04,799
you should be hopping on this

1109
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,440
you'd be good man

1110
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,040
yeah lara you should totally share you

1111
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:11,040
can come on here and share if you want

1112
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:13,440
why don't you just send me an email

1113
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:22,069
and yeah so thanks everybody for hanging

1114
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:23,680
out

1115
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:25,520
uh disclosure team i missed him he was

1116
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:26,559
up there

1117
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,520
he's the only oh look at him

1118
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:32,160
super sticker

1119
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:39,760
it's a flying saucer

1120
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:47,510
i'm going to get back to work and

1121
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,480
um

1122
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,839
put all these together and get them up

1123
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,000
on the website for you

1124
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:54,240
and you know share this stuff let people

1125
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:55,760
know that it exists that this is

1126
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,240
documented and you know

1127
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,319
we can make something of it um there's

1128
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,799
answers there's a legitimate question

1129
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:04,160
that we have

1130
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:07,280
that should be legitimately answered

1131
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:12,710
that's it

1132
01:00:17,349 --> 01:00:15,520
you know there's a pot to piss in so to

1133
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,359
speak

1134
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:19,200
so

1135
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:22,400
you know just doing the best i can uh

1136
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:25,119
ross coldheart man that guy's helped a

1137
01:00:28,230 --> 01:00:26,240
lot

1138
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:28,240
retweeting that thing because i've tried

1139
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,240
to show people in this

1140
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,640
field in this community and tell them

1141
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,720
about these things i had and i just

1142
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:36,960
couldn't get anybody to pay attention

1143
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:39,200
um so putting these together in the

1144
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,960
military fashion and raw sharing them

1145
01:00:44,549 --> 01:00:43,280
like that um that's huge to me that

1146
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:44,559
means a lot

1147
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:45,920
because i just really at the end of the

1148
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:53,109
yeah have a great day everyone

1149
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,720
yeah well yeah maybe tomorrow

1150
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,319
i'd love for you to come on man yeah

1151
01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:00,400
maybe tomorrow or something

1152
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:02,160
let me know you know where to get at me

1153
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:05,760
so robert appreciate you laura everybody

1154
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:06,880
andreas

1155
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,760
uh existential minds jos megan you're

1156
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:11,119
the best

1157
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:13,440
um spaghetti you're not here anymore but

1158
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:14,720
you too

1159
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,870
i don't know

1160
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:22,559
and everybody

1161
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:25,839
youtube stole your super sticker

1162
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,710
god bless you

1163
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,470
oh thank you i really appreciate that

1164
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:38,319
man i need that kind of stuff more than

1165
01:01:43,349 --> 01:01:40,720
you know because it's not easy and the

1166
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,359
muddy the waters are incredibly muddy

1167
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:45,200
and you talk to one person the other

1168
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:47,680
person ignores you and vice versa

1169
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,079
and it's it's really difficult

1170
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:52,720
um so i really appreciate that stuff and

1171
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,200
i need it so thank you

1172
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,440
uh yeah take care everyone

1173
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,640
and

1174
01:02:04,390 --> 01:01:59,839
we'll see

1175
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,430
um

1176
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,559
yeah

1177
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,000
maybe i'll just do that maybe we'll just

1178
01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:10,160
see you tomorrow

1179
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,230
oh wait thanks

1180
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:18,000
thanks to uh the experiencer group

1181
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:21,280
yesterday and jay and kirsten and stuart

1182
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:22,799
i had a great time with them and a great

1183
01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:25,280
talk with them um hopefully

1184
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:26,240
um

1185
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:28,799
you know how they're handling uh this or

1186
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,160
what they're doing

1187
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,319
um gets kind of a spotlight put on it

1188
01:02:37,109 --> 01:02:34,880
because i think it could be helpful

1189
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:37,119
that's for sure so

1190
01:02:44,789 --> 01:02:43,589
just be empathetic nice and listen to

1191
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:44,799
better

1192
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,960
including me so just wanted to throw

1193
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,480
that out there follow them they have a

1194
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:50,640
youtube page the experiencer group and

1195
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:52,799
you can find them on twitter

1196
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:53,839
um

1197
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,319
yeah so if that's something that you may

1198
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:58,640
need help with or you may want a little

1199
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:01,440
more knowledge about it's there for you

1200
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:05,119
so i'm glad there's a place for that